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Restore-Digest Thursday, July
25 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 146
Today's Restore Hemp News Canada:
Hydroponic System A Medicinal Potboiler
CA: SF Considers Growing Its Own Medicinal Pot NV: 'Drug Czar' Blasts Proponents Of Pot Legalization Canada: U.S. MARIJUANA USERS SEEK CANADIAN HAVEN Transcript from Stroup/Huchinson debate on CNN's Crossfire Canada: Hey Man! Don't Bogart That Joint Transcript Zeese on CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports CA: Take Action to Oppose Sentencing of Medical Marijuana Offender CA: Patients With Pot UK: Cannabis Trial Stubbed Out CA: Drug Agents Confiscate 2,600 Marijuana Plants Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:15:10 -0700 Subject:Canada: Hydroponic System A Medicinal Potboiler Up TOC Newshawk: Join CMAP (http://www.mapinc.org/cmap/lists.htm) Pubdate: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 Source: Montreal Gazette (CN QU) Webpage: www.mapinc.org/cancom/F9821694-6BE0-42D7-BB33-1AED9EA16714 Copyright: 2002 The Gazette, a division of Southam Inc. Contact: letters@thegazette.southam.ca Website: http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/274 Author: Mike Boone HYDROPONIC SYSTEM A MEDICINAL POTBOILER A new Montreal company promises to take the guesswork out of growing your own marijuana. The Power Grow system is idiot-proof, efficient - and perfectly legit. The product is being marketed as a safe, efficient system for Canadians who have the federal government's blessing to use marijuana for medicinal purposes. Health Canada has established a "compassionate framework" that allows patients suffering from serious illnesses to relieve their pain with marijuana. There is a licensing process, during which patients supply information on their ailments and indicate whether they plan to grow their own marijuana or have someone grow it for them. In 12 months since the introduction of the Marijuana Medical Access Regulations, more than 800 Canadians have received permission for therapeutic drug use. There are three legal ways for licensed marijuana users to obtain the drug. They can get it from the government, they can grow their own or they can designate a grower. The feds predictably have made a hash of growing marijuana. An attempt to set up a government pot plantation in an abandoned mine in Manitoba was aborted and the plants were destroyed. Private enterprise thinks it can do the job better. Power Grow, a company based in British Columbia, manufactures and sells hydroponic units that turn out primo weed without use of pesticides, herbicides or half the back yard. Two 20something Montrealers, Frederick Robson and Marie-Christine Deschamps, are partners in HydroMedic. They're the distributors, in Quebec and Atlantic Canada, of Power Grow aluminum units that include fluorescent lights, a watering system and ventilation equipment. They're a bit larger than a refrigerator. Each holds about a dozen marijuana plants in various stages of growth. Plants can be harvested every six to eight weeks, yielding up to 1.5 pounds. It's called hydroponic agriculture. The technology was developed in Israel, where water and arable soil are at a premium. It's a long way from the Middle East to the Eastern Townships - and marijuana is a more lucrative cash crop than Jaffa oranges. In Sutton and vicinity, the RCMP recently busted a hydroponic pot-growing operation. Illicit growers were exporting 225 kilos of cannabis to the U.S. every week. Last week, a raid in Roxboro shut down a hydroponic plantation in a private home. Cops seized 480 marijuana plants. During a press conference at a downtown hotel yesterday during which they displayed Power Grow units, Robson and Deschamps were asked whether they'd want to see Health Canada licenses to use pot before selling a Power Grow unit. "Our responsibility ends with the sale and after-sales service," Robson said. "We are selling a legal product." Like rolling papers - only packages of Zig-Zag don't cost $4,500. "It's ideal for marijuana, but you could also grow plants or vegetables," Deschamps added, with a straight face. Like anyone's going to spend almost five grand to grow zucchini. You could rig up a chaise longue and get a decent winter tan in your Power Grow. But let's be serious: this is a machine that does a very nice job of growing an illegal drug. And there is nothing to prevent a criminal from buying Power Grow. He can pull a tractor-trailer up to the warehouse on Monk Blvd. and drive off with HydroMedic's entire inventory of hydroponic appliances. "Yeah, sure, pal. I got the cancer real bad. I'll need 20 of these." But drug dealers tend to be adept with pocket calculators - or, in the case of full-patch tycoons, Palm Pilots. And the units that HydroMedic is selling do not yield commercially viable quantities of marijuana. The way Robson crunches the numbers, however, Power Grow is a good buy for a medicinal pot licensee. Robson hypothesized that a patient consumes an ounce of marijuana a week, $200 to $250 at prevailing street prices. "The unit will pay for itself in four to five months," he said. Robson, who is a designated marijuana grower for a patient whom he wouldn't identify, said he's been using the system for three months. He describes Power Grow as a "turn-key" appliance. You flick the switch and hydroponic agriculture does the rest. All the grower has to do is refill the water reservoir and check pH levels. Turn it on and - well, you complete the cheap joke. Marc-Boris St-Maurice of the Marijuana Party offered an unsolicited testimonial, calling Power Grow a very good product with "enormous potential." St-Maurice, who advocates legalization, said the government should subsidize medicinal users' purchase of the units. HydroMedic offers everything the home pot farmer needs - except seeds. Robson said marijuana seeds are easily obtainable from stores he wouldn't name and Internet Web sites he would not identify. HydroMedic hopes to sell 50 units during its first year of operation. Robson said he hopes to create a network among doctors, patients and medicinal marijuana growers. Business will boom if and when the government finally decriminalizes marijuana and allows cultivation for personal use. Power Grow units will move faster than fridges - and Robson and Deschamps will become the Brault & Martineau of hydroponic home appliances. - - There's more information on the Power Grow system at the HydroMedic Web site, www.hydromedic.com. The phone number of Health Canada's Office of Cannabis Medical Access is (866) 337-7705. The office's Web site is www.hc-sc.gc.ca. __________________________________________________________________________ Distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. - --- MAP posted-by: Beth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:16:11 -0700 Subject:CA: SF Considers Growing Its Own Medicinal Pot Up TOC Newshawk: Jane Marcus Pubdate: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 Source: San Jose Mercury News (CA) Copyright: 2002 San Jose Mercury News Contact: letters@sjmercury.com Website: http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/390 Author: Kim Curtis, Associated Press S.F. CONSIDERS GROWING ITS OWN MEDICINAL POT Supervisors Put Measure On November Ballot Frustrated by the federal government's determination to shut down medicinal marijuana clubs, San Francisco is thinking about growing its own. The board of supervisors voted late Monday to put a measure on the November ballot that would have city officials explore growing marijuana on publicly owned lots and distributing it to ill patients. Job Training Supporters said such a program could double as job training for the unemployed. "I don't think it would be all that dramatic a venture," said Supervisor Mark Leno, who proposed the idea with three colleagues. The city already issues medicinal marijuana use cards to patients who have a doctor's permission. California was the first state to approve the use of medicinal marijuana, with the passage of Proposition 215 in 1996. "The health department or some other entity would distribute it over their own counter," Leno said Tuesday. "We already have 4,000 San Franciscans coming in to get medical marijuana ID cards; now they could also get their marijuana." Leno said he drafted the proposal because the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration remains determined to close down medicinal marijuana clubs in the city and across California. When DEA Administrator Asa Hutchinson spoke in San Francisco in February, Leno was protesting out front with a bullhorn. "If the federal government is going to continue to harass and shut down these clubs, then I think it's the city's responsibility to take action," he said. Supervisors, hesitant to take on the federal government without being sure of their own political support, voted to put the measure on the ballot. "Challenging federal law is a significant step for a city to take," Leno said. "Before the elected body should do that, I think it's important for voters to share their opinions. If 60 or 70 percent of voters say 'yes,' the supervisors would be on very solid ground knowing that voters would be with us." "We have a lot of land," Leno added. "That's not going to be a problem." The problem is that cultivating, possessing and distributing marijuana are illegal under federal law. "Unless Congress changes the law and makes marijuana a legal substance, then we have to do our job and enforce the law, whether or not it's popular," said Richard Meyer, a DEA spokesman in San Francisco. Meyer said that if San Francisco began growing marijuana, it would be "business as usual. We'd conduct an investigation, collect the evidence and take appropriate action." Four Arrests Pro-pot advocates in California have already faced a series of federal crackdowns that culminated in a raid and four arrests at a medicinal marijuana club just hours before Hutchinson spoke. San Francisco District Attorney Terence Hallinan, who also protested Hutchinson's speech, was unavailable for comment but has been outspoken in his support of the clubs. Police have refused to participate in any raids, and last year city leaders declared San Francisco a sanctuary for medicinal cannabis use. Medicinal marijuana advocates lauded the ballot measure. "The real fight we've been having is distribution," said Wayne Justmann, who has been HIV positive for more than 15 years, carries the first city-issued ID card and operates one of San Francisco's 11 remaining pot clubs. Canada and Holland already grow and distribute medicinal marijuana, said Jeff Jones, executive director of the Oakland Cannabis Buyers' Cooperative. __________________________________________________________________________ Distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. - --- MAP posted-by: Beth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:17:11 -0700 Subject:NV: 'Drug Czar' Blasts Proponents Of Pot Legalization Up TOC Newshawk: Krissy www.mpp.org Pubdate: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 Source: Las Vegas Sun (NV) Webpage: www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/lv-gov/2002/jul/24/513757928.html Copyright: 2002 Las Vegas Sun, Inc Contact: letters@lasvegassun.com Website: http://www.lasvegassun.com/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/234 Author: Ed Koch Cited: Marijuana Policy Project (www.mpp.org) 'DRUG CZAR' BLASTS PROPONENTS OF POT LEGALIZATION INITIATIVE Proponents of a state ballot initiative to legalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana are throwing up a smoke screen when they say the measure is meant to help law enforcement, the White House drug czar said today. "Let's not kid ourselves -- this is about helping the marijuana dealers by making it easier to buy and sell on a wider scale and eventually legalize all drugs," said John Walters, the national drug control policy director and so-called "drug czar." Walters was in Las Vegas today to address an anti-drug law enforcement convention at the Hilton. Prior to a news conference, he told the Sun that Nevada is a key battleground in the war on drugs because of the initiative that got put on the November ballot by the Marijuana Policy Project. Billy Rogers, who is on leave from that organization to organize efforts for local supporters of the measure, Nevadans for Responsible Law Enforcement, said Walters is "out of touch with reality" and doubts he has read the initiative. "It is not true that our goal is to legalize all drugs," Rogers said. "And if the drug czar had read the initiative he would not have said that this would aid the marijuana dealers because it says transfer of marijuana in and out of Nevada is strictly prohibited." Passage of the question in November and again in 2004 would constitutionally protect the rights of people to possess up to three ounces of marijuana. Rogers' group argues that the police and the courts are clogged with too many minor pot possession cases. The group also says there are safeguards in place in the initiative that would provide stiff penalties for people who smoke marijuana in public, sell pot to minors or kill people while operating vehicles under the influence of marijuana. Walters was not impressed. "We already have stronger prohibitions under current laws," he said. "I would not expect that anyone with common sense would accept that the law would work any better with passage of this initiative because there would be more drugs available and marijuana use would be a lot higher." Walters said this is an issue that will be highly influenced by marketing. He says proponents will spend a lot of money and use marketing tools to pass the measure. Walters said he would make another trip to Nevada as election day draws closer to help educate voters. __________________________________________________________________________ Distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. - --- MAP posted-by: Beth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:19:47 -0700 Subject:Canada: U.S. MARIJUANA USERS SEEK CANADIAN HAVEN Up TOC The Globe and Mail Tuesday, July 23, 2002 U.S. MARIJUANA USERS SEEK CANADIAN HAVEN By JANE ARMSTRONG VANCOUVER -- They say they're the political casualties of America's so-called war on drugs, and they want Canada's Immigration Department to make it official. Citing persecution in their homeland because of attempts to grow, cultivate or use marijuana for medical purposes, at least three Americans living in B.C. have made refugee claims to stay in Canada. Observers say the persecution allegations made by Steve Kubby, Ken Hayes and Renee Boje, all Californians who were embroiled in high-profile court cases in the United States, could bring a flood of would-be refugees. "It's a war zone down there," said Ms. Boje, an illustrator who fled Los Angeles three years ago after she was charged with growing and possessing pot with the intent to distribute it. "It's a real political war against people who are sick and people who are poor." Ms. Boje, 32, said many other Americans are hiding out in Canada, waiting to see how the refugee panel rules on these initial cases. If the claimants are successful, Ms. Boje predicted a flood of similar claims. Ms. Boje is fighting extradition to face drug charges in the United States and has launched a refugee claim in the meantime. Last year, she married a Canadian and now has a five-month-old baby. She said she never wants to return to the U.S. There have been reports that hundreds of Americans have crossed the border into Canada in recent months after U.S. Attorney-General John Ashcroft ordered clampdowns on medicinal marijuana clubs in states where voters have passed measures approving them. Particularly hard hit has been California, where Proposition 215 in 1996 allowed marijuana use with a doctor's recommendation. Mr. Hayes, of Petaluma, Calif., last year won a court case in Sonoma County, where he was acquitted of marijuana trafficking charges concerning a buyers club he co-owned. But right after his acquittal, federal drug agents began investigating the club. He faces drug-trafficking charges that could put him behind bars for life. In January, he fled to B.C. with his girlfriend and three-year-old daughter. The United States has requested his extradition. Mr. Kubby, who is a host of Pot TV, a Web site with breaking news about marijuana issues, once ran for governor of California as a Libertarian candidate. He was diagnosed with adrenal cancer in 1975 and has been smoking cannabis "heavily" since the early 1980s to curb symptoms, said Alex Stojicevic, his lawyer. Mr. Kubby was flagrant about his pot use and eventually was charged with 11 counts of possession and trafficking. He was acquitted on all but two possession charges, for which he was sentenced to four months. Mr. Kubby fled to Canada before serving his sentence to take the job with Pot TV. His refugee claim states that he smokes pot for medical reasons. The United States has requested his return also. Mr. Stojicevic, who is handling claims for Mr. Kubby and Mr. Hayes, said the U.S. government has made it clear that it does not support marijuana use for medicinal purposes. The lawyer predicted that many who use pot and who are involved in growing and cultivation will seek asylum in Canada. In the past, similar refugee claims haven't fared well, Mr. Stojicevic said. He said he knew of three or four that were successful, but were overturned by the federal court. Hilary Black, a spokeswoman for the B.C. Compassion Club Society, said Canada should accept the claims. As Canada appears to be moving toward greater liberalization of its marijuana laws, it's only logical that it should grant asylum to people who are fleeing years of imprisonment south of the border, she said. Ms. Boje likened the crackdown on marijuana users to other events in U.S. history that prompted waves of immigration to Canada, such as the Vietnam War and the slave trade. "Canada has a history of protecting people in the United States from their own government," Ms. Boje said. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:59:37 -0700 Subject:Transcript from Stroup/Huchinson debate on CNN's Crossfire Up TOC CARVILLE: Welcome back to CROSSFIRE. We're coming to you live from the George Washington University in beautiful Foggy Bottom. Since Congress can't seem to get around to providing a drug benefit for Medicare, perhaps folks should just be allowed to grow their own. A lot of people think marijuana can't hurt people with cancer, glaucoma or other painful diseases, and it may even help. So why not let them have it? In the CROSSFIRE is Keith Stroup, executive director of NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws; and joining us from Oklahoma City is Asa Hutchison, who heads up the United States Drug Enforcement Administration. CARLSON: Keith, thanks for joining us. KEITH STROUP, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NORML: Thank you. Nice to be here. (APPLAUSE) CARLSON: Here's the problem I have. If you're for legalizing marijuana, I think you have a legitimate argument, probably not a correct one, but a legitimate one on your side. STROUP: Thank you. CARLSON: Why not just make it, rather than rolling out, as you did today at a press conference, people who are ill almost as a form of moral blackmail, support our position or you take a position against these ill people here up on the stage? Why not just make the argument directly rather than this kind of phony roundabout medical way? STROUP: I would actually suggest that it is the other side that's doing that, and let me briefly explain. We do favor, my organization NORML believes, you should not arrest responsible marijuana smokers regardless, whether they're a patient or just smoking it for the fun of it. Nonetheless, that issue is a side issue. The country is largely divided on that issue. I think we have a slight majority of the country on our side. But there's a lot of debate that has to happen. On the issue of whether seriously ill patients should have marijuana as a medicine or if their doctor recommends it, 73 percent of the American public now support that. Nine states have now approved it under state law, eight by voter initiative and one, Hawaii, by legislature. It is inconceivable to me that we would want to deny an effective medication to seriously ill and dying patients. There are tens of thousands of seriously ill patients who get no relief from traditional medication. These are cancer patients, AIDS patients, MS patients, people with chronic pain, especially neuropathic pain. If marijuana helps them, I can't imagine a justification for denying them that medication. CARVILLE: Mr. Hutchinson, let me give you just a chance before I get into it to respond to what Mr. Stroup said. He made a lot of points here. I thought some of them sounded good. So, tell us why he's all washed up and wrong. ASA HUTCHINSON, ADMINISTRATOR, DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION: Well, first of all, on the point that we would not want to deny effective medication to someone who is ill or dying, we would not want to do that. We're a compassionate society. But we have always listened to the scientific and medical community as to what is good medicine. And thus far, they have not said that. I think that we ought to listen to the American Medical Association that believes there is a not a medical benefit for marijuana, for smoking marijuana. And so I think that's the group that we should listen to, and they have not said it is good medicine. We want to be -- we are a compassionate society. We want to provide good medicine. We're authorizing continued studies of any health benefits. Thus far, they're not there and so we have the right policy. CARVILLE: Let me read to you -- let me show you something here, Mr. Hutchinson. I'm going to read to you from Al Hunt's column in the "Wall Street Journal": "John Ashcroft's pre-September 11 agenda was fighting gun control, abortion, state laws permitting assisted suicide or medical marijuana and going after hookers and their clients, not terrorism. There are many more crimes and crime-catchers in America. So, priority is important." my question to you is, why should I really care or you care or the FBI or John Ashcroft care if some guy is taking chemotherapy, wants to take a couple of tokes. I mean, let him have it. What the hell. What's the problem? HUTCHINSON: Well, first of all, Attorney General Ashcroft is certainly concentrating on our fight against terrorism. We have priorities that are out there from heroin and cocaine to terrorism. We also have responsibility, one of them is to enforce our laws in regards to marijuana. Whenever you look at marijuana, 400 -- excuse me -- 225,000 Americans each year are admitted to treatment programs because of marijuana dependence. More teenagers go into treatment for marijuana addiction than any other drug including alcohol. It is a serious problem in our country. It has health consequences. It is more toxic than tobacco, and most people are not out there advocating we ought to increase tobacco use. When it comes to medical use, let's listen to science and medicine, and whatever they say, we should follow. CARLSON: Now, Keith, here is the problem I have with the medical marijuana issue. It is apt, A, to make liars out of people. I think it already has in some places where people pretend to have ailments and they need to smoke dope to relieve those ailments; and, B, I think it implicates the government in the dope trade, essentially. San Francisco considering growing marijuana on city-owned property. STROUP: Well, but they're only considering growing marijuana because the federal government will not allow the state to provide medicine that patients need. For example, the bill that we held a press conference on today, that former President Ronald Reagan's top chief, Lynn Noffsinger (ph) supports for example, and Dana Rohrbacher from California. It's not just a bunch of liberals. What this bill does is simply amend federal law so that states that wish to allow the medical use of marijuana may do so legally and may provide it so that you don't have to have the city of San Francisco growing it. Right now, what happens is there is a conflict between state and federal law. CARLSON: But I am just struck that there's no -- I mean, look, if smoking marijuana, as (UNINTELLIGIBLE) would say, marinol, you know, the pill form, if smoking marijuana was a treatment that was so effective that no other treatment could work for gravely ill patients, you would imagine -- you would have physicians protesting in the street on behalf of it, but you don't have that, do you? STROUP: No, no, you do have many. In fact, the Institute of Medicine reding ourselves in. CARLSON: Very quickly, Keith Stroup, that's, I think, an important point. Should we have referendum-based medicine? Why not wait for the FDA to approve it? STROUP: Well, because we've been waiting for over 20 years already, and the government has planted their head in the sand. Canada just legalized the medical use of marijuana. England is just a step away from legalizing it. Most of Western Europe is too. So the fact that we have ideologues in our Congress who refuse to deal with marijuana as a medicine on a rational basis does not mean we should deny it to patients. (CROSSTALK) CARLSON: We're going to have to leave it there. Keith Stroup, thank you so much. STROUP: Thank you. CARLSON: Mr. Hutchinson, thank you. CARVILLE: Thank you so much, as always, both of you. Thanks for coming. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:40:11 -0700 Subject:Canada: Hey Man! Don't Bogart That Joint Up TOC Newshawk: Join CMAP (http://www.mapinc.org/cmap/lists.htm) Pubdate: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 Source: Calgary Herald (CN AB) Webpage: http://www.mapinc.org/cancom/79E729A5-A300-447F-B788-E0771A053134 Copyright: 2002 Calgary Herald Contact: letters@theherald.southam.ca Website: http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/66 Author: Catherine Ford HEY MAN! DON'T BOGART THAT JOINT It was 8 a.m., but in the dim light of Toronto underground parking, it could have been the middle of the day or night. Those of us who lived in that massive complex in Cabbagetown -- yuppies among the remnants of a distressed district of shabby boarding houses and derelict Victorians -- always felt slightly uncomfortable hanging around. Standing still meant attracting drunks and panhandlers. Years later, the district would be gentrified and the local liquor store would stock Merlot rather than $1.05 Old Sailor. Even then, there were two classes of people in the neighbourhood -- middle-class white folks who were protected by the police and the rest, who were harassed by them. Guess who was smoking the marijuana? Not the homeless or the drunkards. And, I guess I have to admit, not me. Not for lack of desire, but for the simple logistics: The smell of pot might permeate the hallways of the apartment building, and Rochdale College was reportedly drug central. For people my age who missed the drug generation by a few years, the only illicit drug we knew was underage drinking. It was possible, even at the height of the '60s, never to have seen marijuana, let alone try it. I would subsequently address that gap in my education, but, on the morning in question, I was standing uneasily in the half-light by my car, waiting to drive a friend to work. It was my Monday as the car-pool and he was late. I waited. And waited. By 8:45, I left. Later, I discovered why my colleague had not appeared. The night before he had been arrested, charged with trafficking and smuggling a carload of pot into Canada stuffed in lamps. He was convicted and sentenced to the minimum of seven years. The point of the story is that he did not fit anyone's stereotype of a drug dealer -- then or now. Under normal circumstances, he would never have been bothered by the police, given his middle-class profile. He was caught because of a tip from an angry co-conspirator. And even today, were marijuana decriminalized, he would still have done time for importation and for dealing. Moving toward the decriminalization of soft drugs such as marijuana is a logical step for Canada, as it is for England. There are plenty of examples: Germany, Portugal, Belgium and Switzerland have decriminalized the private use and possession of marijuana. The Netherlands, the most liberal of the drug-approving countries, has not ceased to function because marijuana is readily available. Standing in our way, though, is the expensive, time-consuming and essentially silly American war on drugs. No matter how racist this operation is, regardless of the lives it has destroyed on both sides, it soldiers on because it is a billion-dollar industry -- on both sides of the law. The United States would be seriously perturbed should Canada relax its drug laws and the pressure, both diplomatic and political, is on. That being said, Canada is a sovereign nation whose lawmakers no longer see the logic in zero tolerance. They'd be hard-pressed to find someone between 25 and 55 who hasn't tried recreational drugs. The list of notables reportedly includes Justice Minister Martin Cauchon, Industry Minister Allan Rock and Alberta Premier Ralph Klein. None of this is to suggest addiction isn't a problem, but those who are addicted to drugs aren't made that way by laws governing access. And it hasn't escaped anyone's notice the most dangerous drug in the country -- liquor -- is readily available. In Alberta or Quebec, we can go to a corner store, although unlike Quebec, where the depanneur will sell you milk and cigarettes with the wine, in Alberta the private liquor stores don't sell non-related products. The comparison between liquor and drugs is cultural, not affective. Booze is as addictive as any drug, is abused with frequency and causes heartaches and pain to those who are hooked and families who watch their disintegration. The difference is we don't jail someone for buying a mickey of rye. Canadians with liquor in their houses don't get a criminal record. Let the U.S. police its own borders, and let the government of Canada make its own decisions, including decriminalizing marijuana. __________________________________________________________________________ Distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. - --- MAP posted-by: Ariel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:43:38 -0700 Subject: Transcript Zeese on CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports CNN WOLF BLITZER REPORTS Excerpt of Kevin Zeese / Ken Connors debate: BLITZER: The hot debate over using marijuana in certain medical cases just got hotter. Democratic Congressman Barney Frank, today, introduced legislation that would repeal federal restrictions on medical marijuana. Federal law now prevents states from allowing marijuana to be used to ease pain in terminally ill patients and other cases. Joining us with their opposing views on this issue, Kevin Zeese is president of Common Sense For Drug Policy, and Ken Connor is president of the Family Research Council. Gentlemen, thanks for joining us. Let me begin with you, Kevin. Why should this federal law, this proposed bill, be enacted? KEVIN ZEESE, PRESIDENT, COMMON SENSE FOR DRUG POLICY: Because the federal government is blocking the voter's decisions in nine states. Overwhelming numbers of voters have voted for medical marijuana. The research shows marijuana works as a medicine. Patients need it desperately and the federal government is wasting precious resources prosecuting seriously ill people. We're seeing federal prosecutions of nonviolent medical marijuana cases at a time when we're on terror alert. It's a waste of resources. BLITZER: Ken, if someone is terminally ill and going through chemo and suffering and this medical marijuana might ease that pain somewhat, what's wrong with letting a doctor give that kind of prescription? KEN CONNOR, PRESIDENT, FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL: Because there are approved alternatives, which the Food and Drug Administration, Wolf, has already passed on. And when you smoke marijuana, you actually ingest about 500 other compounds besides THC, which is then refined in federally approved form, in pill form, and will soon be available in the form of suppositories and inhalers as well. The effect of these other compounds, which are inhaled or ingested by the patient, can react negatively with other drugs or with other conditions. ZEESE: The problem is that research that compares the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) pill with smoked marijuana and they show the same thing. Marijuana is safer and more effective for the patient. The reality is these approved medicines don't work for a lot of patients. There was testimony today on Capitol Hill from patients who have tried the legal drugs. They didn't work. These people are suffering now. You're talking about coming up with progress within 10 years... CONNOR: The reality... ZEESE: There's going to be people suffering while you do it. CONNOR: Wolf, it's a stalking horse for the drug legalization law because... BLITZER: It is a slippery slope, is that what you said? CONNOR: It absolutely is. ZEESE: Well, I'll tell you... (CROSSTALK) CONNOR: These folks want to legalize... ZEESE: What you're doing is you're putting... BLITZER: One at a time. One at a time. CONNOR: They're using the plight and problems of people who are suffering. They're exploiting them in a way to advance a political agenda. The reality of it is that there are federally approved alternatives that can provide palliative relief. ZEESE: The reality is... (CROSSTALK) ZEESE: ... you're the one playing politics with this issue, unfortunately. Voters are voting for this issue in overwhelming numbers. We've never lost a vote around the country. People are suffering while you are propping up the drug war with this fight against medical marijuana. CONNOR: Science doesn't support... ZEESE: Seventy-three -- the science does supports it. In fact, the science supports it very strongly. There's overwhelming evidence in the science on this. Seventy-three percent of the public, according to a number of polls recently, support medical marijuana. Who are you to block -- I mean this is democracy. Get out of the voter's way! CONNOR: Wolf, The Institute of Medicine said we shouldn't do this. This... ZEESE: The Institute of Medicine said the opposite. CONNOR: It's not good for patients. ZEESE: The Institute of Medicine said, "make marijuana available." CONNOR: There are alternatively -- there are alternative forms that are available that can provide palliative relief. This is just a stalking horse for drug legalization and Mr. Zeese is in the forefront of that battle. ZEESE: I'm -- the reality is that people are suffering today and you're standing in their way. These other medicines don't work for everybody and we need to make a medicine available that does work. It takes a decade... BLITZER: But... ZEESE: It takes a decade for a new medicine to come to the market. And during that decade, people will suffer. BLITZER: Kevin, what guarantees would there be that Mr. Connor and his associates might be reassured with that this would be strictly for medical purposes, that it is not the beginning of the legalization of marijuana? ZEESE: The best guarantee is to allow marijuana to be available by prescription like any other medicine. Cocaine is available by prescription. Morphine is available by prescription. We're not... (CROSSTALK) ZEESE: There's no... (CROSSTALK) Well, it's much more dangerous than marijuana. CONNOR: Look what's happened in Oregon with respect to those who applied for IDs to use miracle -- medical marijuana. Forty percent of the applicants were awarded IDs and prescriptions by a 78-year-old physician, most of which came over the phone, many of which -- including, for... ZEESE: Do you know why that is? CONNOR: ... instance a 14-year-old little girl. BLITZER: What's the answer? CONNOR: The reality is there is no quality control. ZEESE: The reason why there is is because the federal government is threatening doctors. You need a doctor who has not got nothing to fear. A 78-year-old doctor with that many years of experience is not afraid of the federal government so he has more guts than most of us who are threatened by... CONNOR: The reality is people are using it on a pretext because they want to smoke pot... ZEESE: Make it available by prescription and you avoid that. CONNOR: ... instead of using it as medical marijuana. BLITZER: We have to leave it, unfortunately, right there. We'll see if this legislation does get enacted. Thank you very much. ZEESE: Thank you very much. CONNOR: Thank you. BLITZER: This debate is obviously going to continue. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:14:17 -0700 Subject: CA: Take Action to Oppose Sentencing of Medical Marijuana Offender Americans for Safe Access is planning events around the August 26 sentencing of Bryan Epis in Sacramento, CA. Bryan is facing a mandatory minimum sentence of ten years in federal prison for growing medical marijuana for himself and other patients -- and since his home (where the marijuana was growing) was within 1,000 feet of a school he could be facing an even greater sentence. 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